Yellow Shelf Podcast

The Connect Effect #author Kylie Paatch

โ€ข Johanna Fink, Host of Yellow Shelf

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The Connect Effect: How to Build Loyalty, Ownership and Engagement with Your Leaders

You became a leader to have an impact. Except your leadership team isn't making that easy.

You're a driven and committed leader, so why are you still battling a leadership team that won't get on board the way you need them to? They're not engaging at the level expected, nor are they taking the level of responsibility or initiative their role requires. Instead, they are disconnected, disengaged and sometimes dismissive-from the work, the direction and from you.

The Connect Effect gives you a clear, practical approach to building stronger one-on-one relationships that deepen connection, inspire ownership and help leaders step up and own their role fully.

This book will elevate your leadership and the people you need most beside you.

To connect with Kylie ....
https://kyliepaatsch.com.au/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyliepaatsch/
https://www.instagram.com/kyliepaatschleadership/ 

SPEAKER_00

Good afternoon, Kylie Patch. Welcome to Yellow Shelf. Oh, good afternoon, Joanna. It's so good to be here. Thank you for coming on. I'm I'm loving your book, supporting your book, The Connect Effect. Tell us all about it.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, so The Connect Effect, well, it's a book for leaders, although I have had a few people who are not in leadership positions come back to me and say, stop saying this is for leaders. It's for anybody who is wanting to engage and influence and motivate the people they lead. So that is, yeah, that's the crux of the book, really.

SPEAKER_00

I'm so glad you said that because you know what? I think Connect, that idea of connect and connection is universal. You know, and yes, it's in leadership, yes, it's in the workplace, and yes, you know, there there will be an audience for you with your book, but you're absolutely right. It's connection, connect is such a universal um quality that we really need to embrace.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it absolutely is. And I always say to um the leaders I work with or the people I work with, we're wired for connection. As human beings, we're wired for connection, we're wired for belonging and meaning. So you're right, connection has to apply to everyone. So yes, I wrote the book with the intent of helping actually senior leaders, so leaders of leaders, uh, to help engage and connect with uh with their um you know with their leaders and the people that report to them. But as it turns out, it's um it's it's been it's been helpful for for lots of different um lots of different people.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and you know, that idea of building trust and respect and quality within our relationship is is definitely really powerful for for individuals or teams to think about.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it is. And look, one of the reasons that I actually wrote the book was I was there was a couple of reasons actually, but I was seeing um in the work that I do that so many leaders were struggling to um to get engagement and to get their people on board with them, with initiatives, with changes, with lots of the things that they were trying to do in their workplaces. And so um, interestingly enough, I I kept seeing this pattern all the time that these leaders were really struggling with disconnection, disengagement, and dismissiveness. So, and and so I had experienced that myself as a leader, and so I actually had this moment one day. I was sitting at the airport um about to catch a flight, and I looked over, you know how you see the um from the the I can't even get the word out, the um waiting area. Uh I was sitting there and I could see the like the book kiosk across, and I looked over and I was like, maybe I should write a book about connection and helping leaders shift that, you know, like that disconnect, disengagement, dismissiveness, like share with them this model that I created about two decades ago when I was actually leading a team and was encountering the same thing. And so I just sort of mapped it out, you know, when you like just sort of mapped it out and then thought, oh, there might be something in this, and I let it sit for a bit. Um, but then I don't know, weirdly, Joanna, it kept in all the work I was doing, it kept turning up. And I was like, well, I've actually got this model called No Show Grow, which is really great if you want to get, you know, you want to engage your leaders, you want to get some ownership, you want to get them on board with you and the things that you're doing, and it sort of took off, and so therefore I was like, okay, this this is meant to be, I think I'm meant to be writing this book, and so I did.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and look, I I think there's there's themes and there's aims in the book around inspiring loyalty and that's lasting.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, and I think it's trickier to get loyalty these days, particularly because we don't trust as um as much as we used to, and there's so many different influences and reasons as to why we we don't do that, but I think sometimes we overcomplicate it, and I think it just needs to be to be simple. And from my perspective, like when you get to know somebody and you know you find out why they do what they do, uh, what motivates them, which ways they work and operate, and then you show them that you know that about them, and you play to their strengths or you work within the ways that work for them. Um people will go, wow, I'm seen, I'm heard, I'm understood. And if you invest time in them, so you make time for them and you invest in their growth and their development and all those things you meant to do as a leader, you will get loyalty. Um, you can't help but not get loyalty. So yeah, yeah, I agree with you.

SPEAKER_00

Kylie, you know, you talk about that scene in the airport of like, hey, I can do this. Tell us a bit of I'd love you to share. Tell us a bit about you, tell us a bit about you know, the inspiration for actually and the labor of love, putting it into a book as an author. Are you a first-time author or is this yeah? So tell us about that. Tell us about that journey.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I actually funnily enough, so I had the idea and I started doing a little bit of writing, and it started out. I started writing about this model, and then all of a sudden I started writing about every model, every framework, every concept I had. It was like I wanted to put my, you know, 30 years of leadership experience and 20 years of coaching facilitation all into one book. So I actually spent about three months writing, and I got to the end of it, like so. I was doing the rough draft, and I got to the end of it and read it and went, I don't even understand what I've written now. So, how is anyone else going to be able to read this? So I paused it for a bit and went, maybe this is a little bit harder than I thought it was going to be. And then I actually um uh invested in a book coach, a wonderful woman called Callie Irvy, um, who runs a called a community called that you probably know Callie, yeah, the expert author community. And that was a game changer for me. So Callie's really great at providing structure and um she gives you really honest feedback. So she pretty much said to me, uh, you're trying to write 20 leadership books here in one. What was your original idea? Told her my original idea, and she's like, just write the book on that guy.

SPEAKER_00

Stay in that lane, stay in that lane.

SPEAKER_01

Stay in that lane. And interestingly enough, at the very, very start of it, I didn't want to write a really big book. Like I wanted to write a book that was um practical, uh, a book that could be a guide, a book that you could take with you, or you could pick up again. And also, I knew that the readers that I was writing the book for pretty busy, so I didn't want to feel it, because you know, some books they just you you feel like you get to the next part of it and you go, but we just keep repeating this and we keep repeating this. So I didn't want to do that. And so interestingly enough, I uh did have a little bit of a giggle to myself because the book that I'd started writing was would have been like, you know, it would have been like an encyclopedia. So again, um yeah, it went back to really what the essence of the book was meant to be about, and that was a practical guide for um for leaders. So uh I found once I got into the process, I actually really, really enjoyed it. I like writing. Um, I write a weekly blog. I um I did a bit of writing over COVID as well. So I actually sort of just it was yeah, it was a bit of personal writing. So I do love writing. Um, but putting it into a book, I learned a lot. Like putting it into a book and a structure like this was very, very different to just blurting out what you're you know, you're feeling and experiencing. So um, but yeah, I'm super proud of it. I ended up writing the book from uh August, uh by December I had the um the first draft through to the the publisher. So I ended up writing it pretty quickly.

SPEAKER_00

Well done. I mean it that and I often ask that question about your writing journey because it particularly for first-time authors, because it's real, it's a really interesting journey in itself to get the book out there and and the style and your learnings in that space as well.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, and I think you you have to, it's interesting because of so many parallels with leadership, like writing this book. You know, I took, as you would know really well, you know, I'm always saying to leaders, think about the people you're leading, put yourself in their shoes, talk to them in the way that they um want to want you to talk to them. And so the same principles apply when you're writing a book to a reader. But you know, sometimes I was writing stuff um that made sense to me but wouldn't make sense to the reader, and you know, one of the big bits of feedback I'd get from Kelly is that's great, Kylie, but that story is more about you than it is for your reader. You've got to write it so that the reader's engaged. Oh, oh, hello there's a leadership parallel.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Kylie, if we're watching anywhere in the world, if we're curious, I mean, I know uh, you know, I have a big LinkedIn connection here. If we're curious about the connect effect and we want to connect with you, go figure. You're on social, so point us in the right direction. Tell us if website, where you want us to go, LinkedIn, you know, Instagram, you point us in that direction.

SPEAKER_01

Great. Um, the first place to go would be um either my website, kyllypatch.com.au. I know you'll pop this in the show notes. My um, because my surname's not always the easiest to um to spell or sometimes pronounce. Um uh and the other one is LinkedIn. So um I think my husband said to me, You spend your life on LinkedIn. I'm like, well, that's that's that's where, you know, that's where my work is, that's where my people are. So um on LinkedIn as well.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and look, hey, uh you're talking to someone who built Yellow Shelf on the back of LinkedIn. So kudos to LinkedIn. Kylie, thank you so much for joining us. Congrats on the book. You should enjoy this journey. I'm sure it's gonna be like, you know, a roller coaster of like getting it out there, and I'm sure there's gonna be more books. So I would love you to come back if for any future books. I'd love you to come back and share. I'd love that.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I must admit, when I first finished the book, it's like I am never writing another book again. I was proud of it and I enjoyed the experience, but I I think I was a little bit um book burnt out. But now I'm like, oh, I've already started, you know, the little scribbles, not at the airport this time at home, but you know, the little scribbles.

SPEAKER_00

Well, enjoy, enjoy the journey of being a published author. It's it's wonderful. And thank you so much for joining us today, Kylie. Oh, thanks for having me. Cheers.